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burningpuppies101
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Post subject: 20 characters Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 07:26 |
Joined: 09 Feb 2010, 06:44 Posts: 11
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Hi, i'm completely new to this. forgive my ignorances... haha
ok, so my friend challenged me to figure/crack his windows XP logon password, and has told me it's 20 characters. i should also add that he is only using alpha numeric, and i'm not sure with or without lowercase, etc.
I figure brute force on any computer would take too long, and i need something that could work in perhaps 30-45 minutes tops.
I have ophcrack, but it only works for up to 14 characters.
my question is, does anyone have a link to a table or something that i can use that would enable me to do this?
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blazerx
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 10:46 |
Joined: 04 Jun 2008, 06:26 Posts: 271
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Lets see, someone check this please assuming LowerCase + Nums only
(36^20)/2 000 000 000/60/60/24/365 =2.119402355854219632775058025205479452054794520547945205479452054794520547945205479452054794520547945205479452... x 10^14 Years
Assuming you are using GPU acerleration cracking at 2 Billion passwords/sec
Your best chances would be to use wordlists of length 20? or combine lists to get you length 20 words. Looks like bruteforcing is definately out of the question.
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superjames
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 12:03 |
Joined: 26 Dec 2009, 19:30 Posts: 15
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/offtopic
you noticed 47945205 repeats?
2.119402355854219632775058025205479452054794520547945205479452054794520547945205479452054794520547945205479452
now all the math gurus here are going to write a long reply why that is. j/k :p
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Sc00bz
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 15:48 |
Joined: 03 Dec 2007, 11:37 Posts: 725
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superjames wrote: now all the math gurus here are going to write a long reply why that is. j/k :p ... because you are dividing two integers (rational number) and the divisor has prime factors that are not 2 and 5.
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superjames
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 18:29 |
Joined: 26 Dec 2009, 19:30 Posts: 15
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Sc00bz wrote: ... because you are dividing two integers (rational number) and the divisor has prime factors that are not 2 and 5. i don't know what that means but awesome nonetheless 
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burningpuppies101
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 20:48 |
Joined: 09 Feb 2010, 06:44 Posts: 11
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ok, so bruteforcing is way out of the question, and i knew that.
but does anyone know how i can make a table perhaps that would specifically cater to this? 20 characters long, aplha numeric, probably works with a word list, and is either physics or chess related.
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Schnitzelwecken
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 13:19 |
Joined: 01 Sep 2008, 22:43 Posts: 69
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burningpuppies101 wrote: ok, so bruteforcing is way out of the question, and i knew that.
but does anyone know how i can make a table perhaps that would specifically cater to this? 20 characters long, aplha numeric, probably works with a word list, and is either physics or chess related. When you generate a table, you'll need more computing power then when you bruteforce the same keyspace once. Generating a table for "single use" only is not worth it. In this case, you're playing a guessing game. Your friend thinks of a password or -maybe- a simple sentence and you need to guess it. So badger him for more clues 
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blazerx
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 15:25 |
Joined: 04 Jun 2008, 06:26 Posts: 271
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your best chance would probably be to install a keylogger on your friends computer because you're really not left with much of a choice, either wordlists +rules, word combinations pretty much.
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Sc00bz
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 20:20 |
Joined: 03 Dec 2007, 11:37 Posts: 725
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_haxxor_
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 20:45 |
Joined: 02 Apr 2008, 15:10 Posts: 833 Location: Romania
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burningpuppies101
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 06:49 |
Joined: 09 Feb 2010, 06:44 Posts: 11
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haha i don't think i'll be using the rubber hose method..
any tips on a keylogger? i don't know too much about them, but i'd prefer one that would record all keystrokes from the moment of XP loading, so i get his login, and then send me the file in an email or something periodically.
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blazerx
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 07:49 |
Joined: 04 Jun 2008, 06:26 Posts: 271
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well when i said keylogger i was thinking more on the lines of something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/KEYLLAMA-VALUE-USB- ... 51904f2fc7though i'm sure software ones will suffice providing your friend isn't running any antivirus apps. If i recall perfect Keylogger by blazing soft, doesit via a keyboard driver so yes it picks up the key when he logs in. Perfect Keylogger also have a LITE edition which is free for home use.
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burningpuppies101
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 14 Feb 2010, 23:29 |
Joined: 09 Feb 2010, 06:44 Posts: 11
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yea i'm not a hardware person... especially since he's using a laptop.
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burningpuppies101
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 14 Feb 2010, 23:44 |
Joined: 09 Feb 2010, 06:44 Posts: 11
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sorry for double posting, but do you know of any free keyloggers? perfect keylogger only works on a trial version, which isn't that great for long term keylogging...
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_haxxor_
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Post subject: Re: 20 characters Posted: 15 Feb 2010, 10:13 |
Joined: 02 Apr 2008, 15:10 Posts: 833 Location: Romania
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burningpuppies101 wrote: sorry for double posting, but do you know of any free keyloggers? perfect keylogger only works on a trial version, which isn't that great for long term keylogging... no offensive hacking here. move your questions to another forum.
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