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 Post subject: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2008, 20:46 
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I generate a set of alpha-numeric 1-8 mysqlsha1 table with winrtgen.
How can i make a perfect version ?
Is there a way to convert tables that produced by winrtgen to perfect version?


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Reason: This is a freerainbowtables.com "brand" so I think it deserves a sticky ( good work Sc00bz ! )


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2008, 08:31 
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I can't be sure without doing the math, but I'm pretty sure that's infeasible with one PC.
Plus, making perfect tables requires the generation of 10 times as much data. Or is it 100?
I can't recall.


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2008, 10:00 
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woverin wrote:
I generate a set of alpha-numeric 1-8 mysqlsha1 table with winrtgen.
How can i make a perfect version ?


Using my tool rtperfect

woverin wrote:
Is there a way to convert tables that produced by winrtgen to perfect version?


Yes, but all the files has to be in the same table index (eg _0_), which is NOT the default in winrtgen. You should also know that perfecting a rainbowtable makes the success % drop, and you have to generate a lot more chains to correct for that.


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2008, 12:39 
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I've the same problem with my lm (alpha-numeric-symbol14) RT set :s
Can't foud how to turn it into perfect RT.


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2008, 20:17 
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hi all!

Where can i find our tools (rtperfect)?
thx
Alone


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2008, 04:33 
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alone wrote:
hi all!

Where can i find our tools (rtperfect)?
thx
Alone


Bump. Any chance on bribing you to share PowerBlade? I'm too lazy to code it up myself lol.


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2008, 08:21 
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Yes, i will share it.. soon. :)


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2008, 08:34 
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You can download rtperfect from http://www.freerainbowtables.com/download/rtperfect.zip
There is a win32 binary and the source code of rtperfect included.
To see the syntax, just run rtperfect without any parameters


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2008, 10:59 
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rtperfect can be made to do 14 times less 64 bit compares for tables with 220 files and 1.5 times less 64 bit compares for tables with 10. If you implement a min heap instead of a linear search.



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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2008, 11:08 
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Sc00bz wrote:
rtperfect can be made to do 14 times less 64 bit compares for tables with 220 files and 1.5 times less 64 bit compares for tables with 10. If you implement a min heap instead of a linear search.


Your welcome to do a patch to the code :)


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2008, 11:29 
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Actually I was going to as soon as I post this thing on key spaces. It'll probably be here in a few hours.



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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2008, 11:32 
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Hi everyone,

I got a question, if you use rtperfect to make perfect tables and you need to generate more tables too get a higher succes rate, how do you know the succes rate after perfecting the tables? and how do you know if you have enough 'normal ' tables?

If you have 'normal' tables with a succes rate of 99,99%, how do you know what the % is after perfecting them?

thnx
Christiaan


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2008, 11:54 
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christiaan_c wrote:
Hi everyone,

I got a question, if you use rtperfect to make perfect tables and you need to generate more tables too get a higher succes rate, how do you know the succes rate after perfecting the tables? and how do you know if you have enough 'normal ' tables?

If you have 'normal' tables with a succes rate of 99,99%, how do you know what the % is after perfecting them?

thnx
Christiaan


Well I just posted this http://www.freerainbowtables.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=264 or you could look for a RT calculator.

Side note I just noticed that I got "patches welcome" :cry:



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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2008, 17:09 
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I used the rtperfect tool, but if I want to use the perfect tables I get the error, in cain or rcrack, rainbow chain lenght verify failed, I tried sorting the perfect tables but it doesn't seem to help.

BTW: sc00bz thnx for your excel sheet i will take a look at it


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 Post subject: Re: perfect rainbow table
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2008, 20:02 
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The tables you perfect, do they all have the same index number? (eg _0_ or _1_) They MUST have the same index number


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