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r4d0n
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Post subject: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 27 Sep 2009, 21:49 |
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Greetings to people at the forums!
I wish that ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 could be generated on freerainbowtables.com
-R4d0n
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_haxxor_
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 27 Sep 2009, 22:23 |
Joined: 02 Apr 2008, 15:10 Posts: 871 Location: Romania
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log_2(36^1+36^2+36^3+36^4+36^5+36^6+36^7+36^8+36^9)= 46.56too big. must be <43 36=26+10 26 : a-z 10 : 0-9 1-9 password length
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 27 Sep 2009, 22:29 |
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_haxxor_ wrote: log_2(36^1+36^2+36^3+36^4+36^5+36^6+36^7+36^8+36^9)= 46.56too big. must be <43 36=26+10 26 : a-z 10 : 0-9 1-9 password length Say what? xD
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 27 Sep 2009, 22:47 |
Joined: 02 Apr 2008, 15:10 Posts: 871 Location: Romania
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you need to keep that number under 43, because frt can't create tables that large, it would take months to make them, only after we have CUDA rainbow table generator implemented we can attack 2^46.56 and more... 36^1+36^2+36^3+36^4+36^5+36^6+36^7+36^8+36^9 = 104461669716084 = 2^46.56 is the number of password combinations for loweralpha-numeric 1-9. (loweralpha=a-z : 26, numeric=0-9 : 10) like : a,b,c...z,0,1,...9,00,01,02,...,09,...,99,0a,..zz,aaa,..........zzzzzzzzz - "there are" 104461669716084 "passwords" like this in loweralpha-numeric 1-9.
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r4d0n
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 27 Sep 2009, 23:06 |
Joined: 07 Jun 2009, 15:19 Posts: 6
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_haxxor_ wrote: you need to keep that number under 43, because frt can't create tables that large, it would take months to make them, only after we have CUDA rainbow table generator implemented we can attack 2^46.56 and more... That's a real shame.  I hope this table is eventually made though. EDIT: Why is that?
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 27 Sep 2009, 23:13 |
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r4d0n wrote: _haxxor_ wrote: you need to keep that number under 43, because frt can't create tables that large, it would take months to make them, only after we have CUDA rainbow table generator implemented we can attack 2^46.56 and more... That's a real shame.  I hope this table is eventually made though. EDIT: Why is that? as i said, because of the current cpu power, and table size.(don't really know how big the tables would be, if you want i'll calculate it...tomorrow)
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neinbrucke
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 28 Sep 2009, 09:43 |
Joined: 30 Mar 2008, 15:37 Posts: 847
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where do you get the 2^43 limit from haxor? please calculate the currently generated mixalpha-numeric 1-8 
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_haxxor_
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 28 Sep 2009, 12:24 |
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neinbrucke wrote: where do you get the 2^43 limit from haxor? please calculate the currently generated mixalpha-numeric 1-8  Sc00bz wrote that limit somewhere ... so it's feasible even 2^48
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Sc00bz
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 04:01 |
Joined: 03 Dec 2007, 11:37 Posts: 737
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_haxxor_ wrote: neinbrucke wrote: where do you get the 2^43 limit from haxor? please calculate the currently generated mixalpha-numeric 1-8  Sc00bz wrote that limit somewhere ... so it's feasible even 2^48 2^43 was not a limit it was roughly the largest key space we had done so far. Well there is always the chance I fu-bared my wording and made it seem like it was a limit. The limit is something higher than 2^51.38 and that's being limited by 20 mbps bandwidth and it will take 66 days for 99.9%. Only problem is it's 2TB so not many people will be able to download it if the server had enough bandwidth to upload it. For some reason no one knows (99% of people) how to set up their router to forward ports to their computer or sets maximum upload to near zero. So torrents don't work to well. Table Set | log2(key space) ---------------------------------------+---------------- mixalpha-numeric#1-8 | 47.66 <-- pretty sure my post was before this table set hybrid(loweralpha#7-7,numeric#1-3)#0-0 | 43.08 <-- maybe even this one too loweralpha-space#1-9 | 42.85 alpha-space#1-9 | 42.85 all-space#1-7 | 42.78 loweralpha-numeric-symbol32-space#1-7 | 42.78 mixalpha-numeric-space#1-7 | 41.86 loweralpha-numeric-space#1-8 | 41.72 alpha-numeric-space#1-8 | 41.72 numeric#1-12 | 40.02 mixalpha-numeric-all-space#1-6 | 39.43 hybrid(loweralpha#6-6,numeric#1-3)#0-0 | 38.38 alpha-numeric#1-7 | 36.23
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Sc00bz
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 11:38 |
Joined: 03 Dec 2007, 11:37 Posts: 737
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I just ran into this post from a year ago. viewtopic.php?p=6437#p6437Sc00bz wrote: Just to let you know most tables that FRT makes have key spaces around 2^43.0 or less. Wow my grammar is really bad. "Just letting you know, most tables from FRT have key spaces around 2^43.0 or less." I swear I always proof read... most of the time. Ahh I get it, I drop, change, or add words when I'm reading to make the sentences correct like the first time I read, "wow is my grammar is really bad."
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r4d0n
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 28 Oct 2009, 22:26 |
Joined: 07 Jun 2009, 15:19 Posts: 6
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This topic never really finished...
So can we do the table I requested? ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9?
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Sc00bz
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 28 Oct 2009, 23:19 |
Joined: 03 Dec 2007, 11:37 Posts: 737
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r4d0n wrote: So can we do the table I requested? ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9? Yes and it will take about half the time it took to create ntlm_mixalpha-numeric#1-8. loweralpha-numeric#1-9 has a key space of 2^46.57 ntlm_mixalpha-numeric#1-8 has a key space of 2^47.66
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r4d0n
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Post subject: Re: ntlm_loweralpha-numeric#1-9 Posted: 29 Oct 2009, 00:41 |
Joined: 07 Jun 2009, 15:19 Posts: 6
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Now that I know we can do this, when WILL we do this? 
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